Politics & Government

Skipping GOP debate, Trump attacks DeSantis and other rivals in pretaped interview

July 11, 2015; Phoenix, AZ, USA, FILE PHOTO; Donald Trump speaks during his presidential campaign rally at the Phoenix Convention Center. Mandatory Credit: David Kadlubowski-USA TODAY NETWORK
July 11, 2015; Phoenix, AZ, USA, FILE PHOTO; Donald Trump speaks during his presidential campaign rally at the Phoenix Convention Center. Mandatory Credit: David Kadlubowski-USA TODAY NETWORK David Kadlubowski-USA TODAY Sports

Former President Donald Trump skipped the first GOP presidential debate on Tuesday night, opting instead for a pretaped interview with conservative media personality Tucker Carlson that aired shortly before the other contenders for the Republican nomination took to the stage.

The former president used the interview to bash several of his rivals, including Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who is next in the polls after Trump, although his numbers have slipped in recent months.

“DeSanctus is out,” Trump said. “I think he’s gonzo. He was at a level — people have figured him out. He’s gone.”

Polls show Trump is currently the frontrunner for the GOP nomination. But Trump also attacked other candidates polling in single digits by name, including former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson and former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie.

“I don’t really want to use names, but it wouldn’t matter much — a guy like Ada Hutchinson,” Trump told Carlson. “He’s weak and pathetic. I never understood the guy.”

“A guy like Chris Christie,” he added. “He runs solely on the basis of, oh, let’s get Trump.”

The interview was an effort at counterprogramming as Fox News hosted the first debate in the Republican primary contest.

Trump also used the interview to criticize President Joe Biden over his age, his policies at the border, and his approach to China, which he said was building military installations in Cuba and across the Western Hemisphere under Biden’s watch.

“China now, think of this, is building military installations in Cuba,” Trump said. “The Cuban population in Miami is not too happy because they’re never going to be able to go back.”

This story was originally published August 23, 2023 at 8:18 PM with the headline "Skipping GOP debate, Trump attacks DeSantis and other rivals in pretaped interview."

Michael Wilner
McClatchy DC
Michael Wilner is an award-winning journalist and was McClatchy’s chief Washington correspondent. Wilner joined the company in 2019 as a White House correspondent, and led coverage for its 30 newspapers of the federal response to the coronavirus pandemic, the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, and the Biden administration. Wilner was previously Washington bureau chief for The Jerusalem Post. He holds degrees from Claremont McKenna College and Columbia University and is a native of New York City.
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